Professor Stephen Farnsworth of the University of Mary Washington said that the idea of a “deep state” of government bureaucrats opposing President Trump has the making of a spy novel rather than as a way of understanding governmental action.
“What you have going on here is what goes on in any democratic system of government where power is dispersed,” Farnsworth said. “When I was a reporter I loved the opportunity to go to Capitol Hill because Congress leaked from every orifice.”
The Farnsworth segment starts at 80 minutes into the program.